it, again, there were questions about hillary clinton, questions about president obama, and they didn't want to do it. they don't want to get into anything that may make their guys look bad. and i say to myself i don't care about the politics. you know. i want this guy out and all of the media should have joined together in pursuit of that. >> and by contrast, bill, a lot of folks from our network and across political aisles were rooting for the nbc crew to be released in syria and prayer chains and all sorts of stuff for ingle and his colleagues and they were released and that was great. i just think it's important that this type of pressure be across the board and not just by one network or certainly one host. and, bill, right now we have a factor exclusive. joining us now on the phone is olivia hammar. she is corporal hammar's mom. and, bill, what would you like to say to mrs. hammar? >> bill: first of all i think that mr. and mrs. hammar were very courageous. they came on to the media no spin, they answer ad the questions honestly and they helped their own cause immeasurablably. i